salam,cer sape2 tolong explain,pasal bartter's syndrome :
kenapa boleh jadi metabolic alkalosis eh?? dah 7 kali baca tak paham2 gak~
kenapa boleh jadi metabolic alkalosis eh?? dah 7 kali baca tak paham2 gak~
naqiyan wrote:oohh,baru baca postreply pene..tengs
tapi,masih ada kemusykilan,tp xpelah,nnt nnt aku ajukan soklan
naqiyan wrote:plasma clearance tu apa? rasa cm x tercapai definisi dalam buku tuh.. aegooo...sumbody help me!!! :'(
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:naqiyan wrote:oohh,baru baca postreply pene..tengs
tapi,masih ada kemusykilan,tp xpelah,nnt nnt aku ajukan soklan
ttbe naqiyan..nmpk sngt bru nk study physio..xpe2, ko ajukan soklan, ak tlg tgk jer.. nk jwp xreti
nwahdaty91 wrote:
afnan..kan naqiyan btaw dyer da bcer 7x pown xpaham2..means da khatam kidney 7 kli la tuh....
*xbcer agy kidney..xleh nk interfere...
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:naqiyan wrote:plasma clearance tu apa? rasa cm x tercapai definisi dalam buku tuh.. aegooo...sumbody help me!!! :'(
secara mudahnya adalah jumlah substrate yg diperolehi/ terdapat dlm urine jika compare dgn jumlah dgn yg lalu during filtration melalui glomerulus .. yg pening sebab ada yg disecreted secara tambahan selain yg volume asal tyme filtration tuh..and then sume2 yg lain.. kalau nk kira tu rujuk buku balik la.. btl kan idea ni kan??
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:nwahdaty91 wrote:
afnan..kan naqiyan btaw dyer da bcer 7x pown xpaham2..means da khatam kidney 7 kli la tuh....
*xbcer agy kidney..xleh nk interfere...
yerla, memang dulu dia baca 7 kali..then yg ni dia baru bukak balik buku..sebab tu dia bru perasan yg topic ni dah di reply.. ak pun x baca menda gak ag..
ayunishafaf wrote:ap korunk faham ngn secondary active transport kt kidney ar?
leh share x?
naqiyan wrote:
kalau camtu,kenapa kalau contoh inulin en,
inulin yg lalu during filtration kat glomerulus 5 biji,dapat kat urine balik 5 biji,then dia kata plasma clearance dia 125ml/min???? kenapa tak kata je 5 biji?? hoho...(?)
apakah maksud clearance di situ??? (?)
naqiyan wrote:tak faham. tak faham. hmmm....
apa maksud K leaves the cell in exchange for H from ECF?
ini part BARTTER,(ye masih di bartter lagi..huhu)
*kalau xde nk jawab xpe je,paham je semua tgh study... (-__-)
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:naqiyan wrote:tak faham. tak faham. hmmm....
apa maksud K leaves the cell in exchange for H from ECF?
ini part BARTTER,(ye masih di bartter lagi..huhu)
*kalau xde nk jawab xpe je,paham je semua tgh study... (-__-)
aik, yg ni pun dlm plasma clearance ke??
naqiyan wrote:tak faham. tak faham. hmmm....
apa maksud K leaves the cell in exchange for H from ECF?
ini part BARTTER,(ye masih di bartter lagi..huhu)
*kalau xde nk jawab xpe je,paham je semua tgh study... (-__-)
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:ayunishafaf wrote:ap korunk faham ngn secondary active transport kt kidney ar?
leh share x?
hmm..rasanya ni pasal glucose kan?? transport of glucose, kan2?
kalau psl glucose tu mybe gini kot..
1- glucose tu, dia nk transport dia perlukan Na sebagai co-tranporter tuh..
2-so, first skali untuk capaikan matlamat tu, dia kena ada Na dekat lumen tuh
3- caranya dgn active transport Na dgn K ( Na kluar ke lumen , K masuk dlm cell )
4-apabila dgn high Na kat luar, dia akn passively masuk balik by concentration gradient
5- smbil2 masuk tuh, dia bawak la masuk glucose skali.
6-yg mana mechanism ni dia panggil secondary active tranporter ( co-transport )
yg ni kot penjelasan dia, lau silap blehla tgur blik..
ayunishafaf wrote:
yg ko fhm la kan...
nme dye 2ry active transport disebbkn oleh glucose ker( i mean secondary active to merujuk kpd glucose ke?)
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disebbkn oleh transport tu secondary kpd active transport Na and K?
afnan fakhrurazi wrote:ayunishafaf wrote:
yg ko fhm la kan...
nme dye 2ry active transport disebbkn oleh glucose ker( i mean secondary active to merujuk kpd glucose ke?)
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disebbkn oleh transport tu secondary kpd active transport Na and K?
yg ak faham la kan ,
- dlm kes kidney ni 2ry disebabkan glucose la ( dlm buku first year dia bg contoh pun glucose kalau x silap aku )
- kalau active transport Na n K tu dipanggil primary active transport.( sebab dia guna direct ATP kan? ) * buku first year pun ada ckp jgak
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